Dear, Robbyn.
1) You could repeat it so many times, as you want.
But this is merge.
When 40+ players went to another alliance - this is merge
You could name it: "carrot", "red bus", either "Having their own reasons, a group representing basically the core of Juggernaut asked yesterday for invitations to S...blah-blah-blah..."
Doesn't matter - this is Merge
2)
"You choose to leave after a personal dissatisfaction regarding something that was said by some SI leader in a very heated argument, when the situation seemed almost hopeless for SI."
Let's remind chronicles:
After first Juggs+Pl operation against SI
http://www.grepostats.com/world/en54/alliance/17/colonizations?page=49
it was like: leaders kept silence and says nothing.....
Gmartink and Kalus were really upset
leader's answer to gmart was:
- "you could be more defensive"
- "but if this ally is not able to defend offensive players...." said gmart
- ........ said leaders
to kalus they said just: if you unhappy you could leave alliance...
Finally kalus jumped to juggs and gmart hit long term vm, and about 6 guys left helorus.
We were only Red dots around: 2f2h at south, Pl at west, Juggs at north, weird Grim at east...
Plus during Op our defensive forum was totally mess up
I posted on forums that we expect changes in diplo works,and leadership roster.
But nothing happened.
After second Op PL+Juggs vs SI
The same, defensive forums mess up
Skiboot hit VM
David - offline
Robbyn hit VM "on road"
Another 10 players left Si and helorus.
We have made a emergency group, Robbyn "on road but on skype", tiller and itspav.
plan was:
a) make a peace with PL, and give to them our o45 cities (finally you did it 2 weeks ago)
b) change leadership
c) kick out inactive crowned players from ally (finally you did it 2 weeks ago)
I would like you remind our convo, just before i have left SI
[04.02.2013 21:53:48] TilleR: i do not feel ski and david as a good leaders
[04.02.2013 21:55:10] TilleR: i will not stay under their's leadership. Since they showed today pretty clear, that their own ego much more important than alliance
[04.02.2013 21:55:54 | Edited 21:56:55] Robbyn44: I see what you say and I pretty much agree
[04.02.2013 21:56:13] Robbyn44: I was quite surprised to read their reaction but
[04.02.2013 21:56:35] Robbyn44: If we force their hand they will most probably fracture SI
[04.02.2013 22:03:28] TilleR: i know only one: ski and dave -good guys but worst diplo i have ever seen in my life
[04.02.2013 22:04:35 | Edited 22:05:07] Robbyn44: I would say rather david cause skiboot wasn't really in the diplomacy
[04.02.2013 22:05:41] TilleR: [04.02 2013 г. 15:09] skiboot:
<<< Look Sense / Tiller you keep talking about us being the manager of a football team but you've got it all wrong. Actually we are the owners and if you don't like the course the club is taking then go support another.
[04.02.2013 22:05:47] TilleR: this one killed me
[04.02.2013 22:06:04] Robbyn44: Yep, read it and didn't like it
[04.02.2013 22:06:25] TilleR: if they are owners, but only not for me. I prefer democracy
[04.02.2013 22:07:10] Robbyn44: Hehehe... a alliance can't be really democratic Tiller... but on the other side, no founder owns an alliance
[04.02.2013 22:07:25 | Edited 22:07:48] Robbyn44: They might own the brand SI but not the people
[04.02.2013 22:08:16 | Edited 22:08:29] Robbyn44: I need to think a bit about this whole situation cause their reaction took me by surprise
[04.02.2013 22:09:59] TilleR: if you ready to leave it, i'm with you, and i'm sure most players as well
[04.02.2013 22:17:24] Robbyn44: Well, this would be probably most difficult thing for me to do. I am not used to leave friends no matter what reason I might have. So if it will come to this I would advice you to take all those who want to join you and make aother alliance. I will advice everybody to join you if needed but as far as I am concerned I will stay with david and skiboot out of loyalty. No matter how stupid this might seem.
[04.02.2013 23:42:02] Robbyn44: You left already???
[04.02.2013 23:42:08] TilleR: yes
blah-blah
[05.02.2013 22:00:13] Robbyn44: Right now I am not sure I really care anymore
[05.02.2013 22:40:35 | Edited 22:40:47] Robbyn44: Ad I feel to bored and fed up to really do anyhing right now
[05.02.2013 22:42:49] TilleR: hey dont give up
[05.02.2013 22:54:23] Robbyn44: I am not interested to be a leader at all. I never really was. But right now I am not really interested to play either. This is just how it is. Not taking any decisions now but I really feel like hitting delete
blah-blah
So i left SI with 5 brave guys
But they were missed some SI guys...
[07.02.2013 18:29:17] TilleR: rob around?
[07.02.2013 18:29:57] Robbyn44: Yes
[07.02.2013 18:30:00] TilleR: send invitation for jethro and guys plz...they miss a lot about their's friends. I will stay alone. It's Ok
[07.02.2013 18:30:39] Robbyn44: Somebody already did
And i was ready to delete account, when zep gave me a hand and helped me to start new helorus life.
I would like to ask you, why do you say one thing but makes other things?
1) Dreamer situation
[25.02.2013 22:05:59] Robbyn44: 2F2H already recruited most of the bigger players there
[25.02.2013 22:06:18] TilleR: yes, the best players went to 2freaky and slackers
[25.02.2013 22:06:28] TilleR: dreamer to zep
[25.02.2013 22:06:36] Robbyn44: Dreamer is a nightmare
[25.02.2013 22:06:40] TilleR: and idk who -to si and sparta academy
[25.02.2013 22:07:08] TilleR: hhaa why? she is just a woman
[25.02.2013 22:07:28] Robbyn44: No
[25.02.2013 22:07:34] Robbyn44: She is an idiot
[25.02.2013 22:07:43] Robbyn44: Should talk to her more, you'll see
But finally Dreamer joined to Cerberus (SI sister ally)
next Sjoedjens situation:
[03.03.2013 0:14:05] TilleR: sjordie going crazy
[03.03.2013 0:14:40] Robbyn44: sjordie is a pompous idiot
[03.03.2013 0:14:46] Robbyn44: (chuckle)
[03.03.2013 0:15:00] Robbyn44: Juggs have troubes though (rofl)
[03.03.2013 0:21:27] Robbyn44: Hmm...better they don't invite him to SI
[03.03.2013 0:22:41] Robbyn44: (angry)
[03.03.2013 0:22:56] TilleR: you have a good company now))) dreamer, now sjodie
[03.03.2013 0:23:04] Robbyn44: This should not happen
[03.03.2013 0:23:18 | Edited 0:23:25] Robbyn44: Better not or I am asking Lilithka to join PL
[03.03.2013 0:26:48] Robbyn44: Ain't reallymy style toleave.But if sjordejens joins my team... hmm
finally sjoerdens joined to SI
next "not ready to collaborate with sjoedjens"
[03.03.2013 16:56:16 | Edited 16:56:23] Robbyn44: Cause there are mostly simmers left there
[03.03.2013 16:56:27] Robbyn44:
[03.03.2013 16:57:46] Robbyn44: Anyway, we only took sjoerdeens to make Juggs fall faster
[03.03.2013 16:58:39] Robbyn44: I wasn't too happy but couldn't oppose too much because the others would have think I am doig it because of the wrong reasons (personal issues with him)
[03.03.2013 16:58:59] Robbyn44: Still don't trust him and not ready to collaborate with him
but next day:
[04.03.2013 22:25:47] TilleR: will you send support him?
[04.03.2013 22:29:59 | Edited 22:30:07] Robbyn44: I sent him some land
Next, Kalus situation:
[03.03.2013 16:50:29] Robbyn44: And trust me... there is no room for Kalus in SI. Never.
[03.03.2013 16:50:49] TilleR: nahh sjord made it...dont see why kalus wont
[03.03.2013 16:51:11] Robbyn44: Very different
[03.03.2013 16:51:23] Robbyn44: Soerdeens didn't betray SI
[03.03.2013 16:51:26] Robbyn44: Kalus did
[03.03.2013 16:51:45] Robbyn44: I still don't like sjoerd though
[03.03.2013 16:52:01] TilleR: not so huge difference
[03.03.2013 16:53:55] TilleR: i dont understand what the panic in juggs. they have a sweet location and good allies PL
[03.03.2013 16:53:57] Robbyn44: HUge though, trust me. With sjoerdejens is oly personal.With Kalus is alliance related.
But finally Kalus joined to Si.
Robbyn said:
"PS: As for my public disputes with some Juggernauts or Rogue members, is my and their business alone if we are ready to call them off. Fortunately not everybody is determined to hold a grudge for ever."
Just wonder, how could you live and sleep with all those things?
Does that crown so important for you guys, to make this "Space Juggernaut" alliance.
Is it really manly?
I know this is just a game, but i thought honor, and conscience still could exist in this game, but now i don't see that...
The Man - must take responsible for his words
The coward - making alliance with enemy.
I dont remember when and who great people have made alliance with enemy in human's history. So why it happens today, at online game? Nahhhhhhh. I don't see any excuses for you.
That's pathetic guys, choose who you are, but don't blame the mirror tomorrow, since mirror never lies.