oh well... it does not surprise me the revisionism and distortion of history that you engage in order to desperately attempt to support your senseless point.
The Gods even helped humans when engaging in espionage. Have you ever read the Illiad or heard of the Kryptea?
"....The Greek commanders sleep well that night, with the exception of Agamemnon and Menelaus. Eventually, they rise and wake the others. They convene on open ground, on the Trojan side of their fortifications, to plan their next move. Nestor suggests sending a spy to infiltrate the Trojan ranks, and Diomedes quickly volunteers for the role. He asks for support, and Odysseus steps forward. The two men arm themselves and set off for the Trojan camp. A heron sent by Athena calls out on their right-hand side, and they pray to Athena for protection.
Meanwhile, the Trojans devise their own acts of reconnaissance.
Hector wants to know if the Achaeans plan an escape. He selects Dolon, an unattractive but lightning-quick man, to serve as his scout, and promises to reward him with Achilles’ chariot and horses once the Achaeans fall. Dolon sets out and soon encounters Diomedes and Odysseus. The two men interrogate Dolon, and he, hoping to save his life, tells them the positions of the Trojans and all of their allies. He reveals to them that the Thracians, newly arrived, are especially vulnerable to attack. Diomedes then kills Dolon and strips him of his armor.
The two Achaean spies proceed to the Thracian camp, where they kill twelve soldiers and their king, Rhesus. They also steal Rhesus’s chariot and horses. Athena warns them that some angry god may wake the other soldiers; Diomedes and Odysseus thus ride Rhesus’s chariot back to the Achaean camp. Nestor and the other Greeks, worried that their comrades had been killed, greet them warmly..."
"....Spartans were among the first fighting forces to recognize the importance of spycraft and infiltration. The kryptea, a specially-trained unit, functioned as something between a spy agency and a secret police, keeping an eye on the conquered territories and on the troops at home. The Spartan empire, though small compared to world empires, was large compared to those of their neighbors. They held it for hundreds of years. This was not an accident..."
Kal, I get it why some of you are against espionage. It makes operations and warfare incredible complicated. It adds a level of complexity that many people can not handle.
I understand why Jim was against spies. His military operations were really master plans. If we would have spies infiltrated those operations would have been easily defeated and we would not have been able to beat you like an old drum.
There is nothing moral or immoral about spying. It is part of warfare since ancient history, however, not many people can handle the devastating emotional and tactical effects of spies. That's all.
Next time that you complain about spies remember that it is thank to them that you do not speak German and every morning you are not doing a Nazi salute. British and German spies were the ones that saved great Britain as their information, codes, and infiltration turn the tide in the Battle of the Atlantic.
So stop the bullshit, and man up. This is warfare and spies are part of it whether you like it or not.