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Where in this thread do you see anything about eclipse or asking you to present your splinter group of eclipse(who got raped by IL).
Do you constantly ***** at people Phish, or do you have any good points to your day......
Are you still talking about your dominance over Eclipse in o39-38......This is all a bit old,.... is it not....
I'll send you an invite to our group if you want....there is no hard feeling's on my part....lol
Yes he does
Do you constantly ***** at people Phish, or do you have any good points to your day......
Are you still talking about your dominance over Eclipse in o39-38......This is all a bit old,.... is it not....
I'll send you an invite to our group if you want....there is no hard feeling's on my part....lol
Pretty much.
You didn't answer my question mate.
how'd you make a come back 3 months ago calatan quit and you guys were sunk i hope that happens again
the person who wants you dead,
raphshadow(SW)
how'd you make a come back 3 months ago calatan quit and you guys were sunk i hope that happens again
the person who wants you dead,
raphshadow(SW)
WM802 said:Eclipse didn't shrink, they took most off HoD, then BDI and EOW were the next choices, because they fought with honour, unlike TGO.
I take exception to that highlighted part, how could we have fought dishonourably when we were never at war with HOD??
If you're referring to clamenza forcing calatan to change his city names. That was just a tactic to keep HOD in line. There were so bloody many of you that as an alliance HOD often acted like a headless chicken attacking friend and foe alike, the fact that calatan had to change a city name every time a member of HOD attacked TGO meant it didn't happen too often and when it did it was dealt with fast.
If calatan found it overly objectionable he could have declared war and we would have happily joined the ever swelling ranks of HOD's enemies.
I also don't recall you having any moral objections when you accepted your invitation to join TGO.
WM802 said:join BDI and EOW before joining TGO because, BDI and EOW actually went to war.
Afraid you can't have it both ways m8. Your saying we didn't have any honour because we didn't attack you but calatans tactics in belittling himself and his alliance were perfectly justifiable?
Im just saying it in calatans point of view
Not in my books m8. You can reason it out as much as you want but it just made calatan and by extension HOD look bad.
The simple fact is TGO was one of the few alliances who didn't get caught up in the lets pound the MRA fad that swept alpha, we had other things to do and HOD was no real threat so why should we go to war when we could use calatans fear of us to keep his piglets in line.
I remember when i first joined Zodiac, HoD took some cities off you.
It seems to me that HOD gained more from this arrangement than TGO did, all we wanted was to avoid the distraction that HOD represented. Calling us dishonourable is a stretch when calatan was the one who acted like a coward.
I'll say it again "Do you honestly think any alliance leader who had a shred of respect for themselves and their alliance would agree to something like that?"
He knew that many hogs, would get conquered.He obviously had respect for them, trying to not get them conquered.
The answer is simply no
WM802 said:Im just saying it in calatans point of view
WM802 said:I remember when i first joined Zodiac, HoD took some cities off you.
WM802 said:He knew that many hogs, would get conquered.He obviously had respect for them, trying to not get them conquered.
When you said "Eclipse didn't shrink, they took most off HoD, then BDI and EOW were the next choices, because they fought with honour, unlike TGO."
That was clearly your point of view, you didn't add anything to attest that opinion to calatan.
Well ive told you, it was calatans point of view.
I was heading up TGO when you joined Zodiac and clamenza was the one dealing with calatan, weather he did anything about this I really don't know. It's a bit of a pointless statement though. Usually any skirmishes that broke out were resolved very quickly and I don't ever remember thinking HOD are a threat we need to deal with.
We lost 2 cities, i remeber the thread in Zodiac, "Helping TGO"
Thats what happens in wars, you win some you loose some every alliance leader knows that but it doesn't mean you belittle your alliance in such a way.
Go ask any of the well known leaders of the alliances in alpha if they would degrade themselves and their alliance to prevent a war from breaking out.
P.S. if he had such respect for his members then he might have tried a few non degrading means of preventing wars..like oh I don't know, maybe not mass recruiting from other alliances, taking in vast amounts of refugees or not being such a terrible di0plomat.