I appreciate you input Seductress. Not once has Dan Brown or Dave Y ever mentioned you were a leader and someone I needed to talk to and yes I've had many conversations with them concerning diplomacy.
And INcubi has never had a pact with anyone until very recently. We had a verbal short term agreement with MG to fight the claw and not each other, apparently ETD benefit from this agreement because they went hand in hand with MG and a shared forum was put up between us to prevent smashing each others CS seiges. Once that short term agreement ended I closed the forum down as MG and ETD were working deals with everyone seeing which direction they wanted to go. We pull our offer off the table because I found out BEFORE we were working a pact you, you were already in agreement with Enthroned, the next big MRA which MG leaders (Ill be more specific now, Dan and Dave) said it was not something they were interested in doing but MG did anyway no matter who decided it.
So just so you know it's not about me and my lack of attention though I'll glady take a grepohug. We stated since day one our goal was to control ocean 45....ETD and MG wanted to pact everyone and left their only area for REDS in 45...and even then ETD still wanted to pact us so they can eat claw in 45 which is rediculous to me for them to think we'd let them just march in and sim in our ocean at no cost.