This is a pointless disscssion. There are and have been many great alliance in Grepo, TW-shadow(Ice-man), Army of Aliens(Aliens), The Huns/Disiples of Aries(Sparky, 44, kris, placy, dingy), Black (Leggy, diazan, The Dink, Silverfish, valzer, TicTac, ratatatPat, mythro, The alliance that has turned out many game changing/alliance leading players of any alliance and had one of the best players of all time as a leader), JFL (Ryan, Vork, Betsy, Knutti, Bruticus1, Llettek, Tabor, The original was possibly the best compilation of players ever constructed on grepo and many have left a lasting legacy on grepo), Evolution.(Commander Rocky, Mashal Tito), Black Shadows(daizan), The Marines(Kurb, GenDodo, KingBeast), Black A.R.M.A.D.A. (lefty, The Dink, diazan, valzer, 123Koan), Lynx(ford perfect, MrGlenn, ZUES had returned, Gronbeck, Dan Brown), Project Venom(daizan, Socrates, milos, privatejoker), Incubi(Zolen, Yo) and those are just the originals of many of the servers I have seen, we aren't even talking about the 2nd or 3rd gen. awsome alliances that have gone through the different servers. Like many incubi members have said you can't compair worlds and alliances unless you have them fighting head to head. With simmalar developement.