Why I left Checkmate

[DeletedUser6378]

[3/8/2014 10:29:48 AM] Stealing your City: who all is here
[3/8/2014 10:30:06 AM] Kristoffer / Move.: Here
[3/8/2014 10:31:56 AM] Stealing your City: can you check out the alliance Bellum se ipsum alet
[3/8/2014 10:32:13 AM] Kristoffer / Move.: Already done
[3/8/2014 10:32:25 AM] Kristoffer / Move.: Just out breakers from Pirates of Kronos
[3/8/2014 10:32:28 AM] Kristoffer / Move.: nice average tho
[3/8/2014 10:32:42 AM] Stealing your City: right
[3/8/2014 10:32:55 AM] Kristoffer / Move.: Neither myself or LA were interested in any pacts in 44 tho
[3/8/2014 10:33:04 AM] Stealing your City: like it or not we need help in 44
[3/8/2014 10:33:19 AM] Stealing your City: we are constantly fighting there
[3/8/2014 10:33:36 AM] Stealing your City: nobody from the alliance will move there to help
[3/8/2014 10:33:50 AM] Kristoffer / Move.: Because everyone is told to move to 55
[3/8/2014 10:33:53 AM] Stealing your City: if our members wont go there to help then we need a pact
[3/8/2014 10:34:03 AM] Stealing your City: we still will have cities there
[3/8/2014 10:34:47 AM] Kristoffer / Move.: We have 10 cities, all at the borders, looking at the ocean lines we only have 6 there really
[3/8/2014 10:35:58 AM] Stealing your City: we also have 3 attacking alliances there
[3/8/2014 10:36:13 AM] Stealing your City: you going to just let them grow then run over us
[3/8/2014 10:36:47 AM] Stealing your City: this coalition against us is very large, and most of it is in 44
[3/8/2014 10:37:32 AM | Edited 10:37:46 AM] Kristoffer / Move.: We're outgrowing everyone atm, and with our current pacts we would manage to hold against probably the whole 44 of together
[3/8/2014 10:38:05 AM] Kristoffer / Move.: Maybe those guys could join us instead?
[3/8/2014 10:38:39 AM] Stealing your City: your not looking at the big picture
[3/8/2014 10:39:00 AM] Stealing your City: they are not going to join they are growing, and will continue to grow
[3/8/2014 10:39:13 AM] Stealing your City: they are also in the best position to hit our core
[3/8/2014 10:39:35 AM] Stealing your City: they are setup as close as 1 island away from our core
[3/8/2014 10:40:27 AM] Kristoffer / Move.: I am, the idea is to first take total control of 55, then invade 44 or 54 unless there's a rim alliance contender rising in 65, 66 or 56
[3/8/2014 10:40:28 AM] Stealing your City: we either need to have people move us to 44, and setup a proper border, or make a pact with a group that can make it for us
[3/8/2014 10:41:28 AM] Kristoffer / Move.: If they want to work with us, they could joins us, 4 pacts for an alliance in our position seems dumb to me
[3/8/2014 10:41:55 AM] Kristoffer / Move.: - Or take in great players in 44 if there is any
[3/8/2014 10:42:41 AM] Stealing your City: if we are not moving to 44 then what does it matter
[3/8/2014 10:45:10 AM] Kristoffer / Move.: Well, the decision about moving to 55 and not the other core oceans came pretty a early on,,,,
What exactly do you mean by a "proper border"? Because all of the cities in 44 are just in the corner, extremely close to the rest in NW 55, BL and ourselves in 54 and spiders and ourselves in 45
[3/8/2014 10:47:47 AM] Stealing your City: a proper border - Several cities close together that we can build defense in and use as a buffer zone between our core, and other alliances. That way if they want to try to come after us they first have to come trough a defense zone.
[3/8/2014 10:50:38 AM] Kristoffer / Move.: Yes, but an invation of 55 atm are stretching us in two directions, that could be very destructive if we are struck in 55 at the same time
[3/8/2014 10:50:55 AM] Kristoffer / Move.: As far as I know, AE are already planning something on us
[3/8/2014 11:32:54 AM] Stealing your City: back to this bit with 44 for a bit
[3/8/2014 11:33:16 AM] Stealing your City: something has to be done there
[3/8/2014 11:45:10 AM] Kristoffer / Move.: back
[3/8/2014 11:50:01 AM] Stealing your City: kris how about making a pact with them, and see how they do
[3/8/2014 11:50:18 AM] Stealing your City: then if they keep there numbers small after they see how we do maybe they will join us
[3/8/2014 11:50:34 AM] Stealing your City: just to join us straight out i don't see it
[3/8/2014 11:52:51 AM] Kristoffer / Move.: What I ask everyone who wants to come over from another big alliance to do
[3/8/2014 11:53:06 AM] Kristoffer / Move.: is to clear a teammates city and send me the report
[3/8/2014 11:53:13 AM] Kristoffer / Move.: Where I pick the target
[3/8/2014 11:53:28 AM] Kristoffer / Move.: Unorthodox, but it show where their loyalty lies
[3/8/2014 11:53:29 AM] Stealing your City: they are a small group only 15 members
[3/8/2014 11:53:37 AM] Stealing your City: i do the same
[3/8/2014 11:53:42 AM | Edited 11:53:53 AM] Kristoffer / Move.: They are all outbreakers from Pirates of Kronos
[3/8/2014 11:54:01 AM] Stealing your City: right descention amoungst the ranks
[3/8/2014 11:54:18 AM] Stealing your City: also by far the best single group of players in 44
[3/8/2014 11:59:46 AM] Kristoffer / Move.: I can not create a pact without LA agreeing, along with the majority in here and Friggin Spiders aswell
[3/8/2014 12:01:08 PM] Kristoffer / Move.: Something that would make us both get what we want would be a deal where they spend xx days creating that border for us in the 44 corner
[3/8/2014 12:01:19 PM] Kristoffer / Move.: and after those xx days they join us for good
[3/8/2014 12:01:56 PM] Stealing your City: what does spiders have to do with it
[3/8/2014 12:02:22 PM] Stealing your City: I know this much we need help in 44, and we need it now
[3/8/2014 12:02:48 PM] Stealing your City: unless we are going to start moving there then a pact must be made
[3/8/2014 12:03:23 PM] Kristoffer / Move.: Den 08.03.14, kl 17:02, Stealing your City skrev:
> what does spiders have to do with it


We can't randomly add pacts and alliances to our shared forum without our current allies wanting to cooperate with them
[3/8/2014 12:03:59 PM] Stealing your City: we all share a common enemy they shouldn't have a problem with it
[3/8/2014 12:04:38 PM] Kristoffer / Move.: And who might that be? Neither of us are suffering constant serious attacks
[3/8/2014 12:05:07 PM] Stealing your City: i get attacked everyday
[3/8/2014 12:14:08 PM] Kristoffer / Move.: Farming isn't war, we can stack cities in 44
[3/8/2014 12:14:20 PM] Kristoffer / Move.: We lose valuable time by focusing on 44
[3/8/2014 12:15:37 PM] Stealing your City: thats why we make a pact to do it for us
[3/8/2014 12:15:55 PM] Stealing your City: if you don't care about members being farmed then there is a problem
[3/8/2014 12:16:38 PM] Stealing your City: I'm in 44 because you told me 44 was where we were going before the server started
[3/8/2014 1:29:45 PM] Kristoffer / Move.: Farming can be sorted in other ways than having to pact with people
[3/8/2014 1:29:58 PM] Kristoffer / Move.: Long term support, dodging, clearing the attackers
[3/8/2014 1:30:37 PM] Stealing your City: only problem is there is no help for 44 members
[3/8/2014 1:31:09 PM] Stealing your City: I can't keep up with them by myself
[3/8/2014 1:31:30 PM] Stealing your City: either get some people up here to work with, or get more membvers up here
[3/8/2014 1:32:32 PM] Kristoffer / Move.: The whole alliance are supporting people in 44 when needed
[3/8/2014 1:32:45 PM] Kristoffer / Move.: it's not like they are divided from the rest, they are just across the borders
[3/8/2014 1:33:01 PM] Kristoffer / Move.: they are very close to our most populated area
[3/8/2014 1:33:31 PM] Stealing your City: fine i'm stepping down as a leader
[3/8/2014 1:33:39 PM] Stealing your City: you all deal with it however you want
[3/8/2014 1:33:39 PM] Kristoffer / Move.: And for the record I never confirmed that we were starting in 44, you and I were talking wether to go 55 or 44, we never concluded with anything

 

[DeletedUser]

You don't go post a conversation like this in the external forums, or broadcast it.
I didn't expet you to do this man, seriously these convo's are too private for a whole audience to see..

 

[DeletedUser6378]

this is best for the entire server to see. will make kris stop being a dictator, and show everybody what kind of leader he is.

 

[DeletedUser]

I am not in this world but read a bit of this..

This is my 2 cents

-Check Mate should secure a bit in 044 but they can't try to take on everything at once. I would clear 55 and 44 border if I were them atm
-4 pacts is too much

 

[DeletedUser]

Well that was interesting

 

[DeletedUser44027]

You don't go post a conversation like this in the external forums, or broadcast it.
I didn't expet you to do this man, seriously these convo's are too private for a whole audience to see..

hm... private convos arent disallowed, by the rules, and this wasn't that private. Something you must consider when choosing leaderhip and who to converse with, grepolis gives the player a tremendous opportunity for backstabbing and the like.'

Anyways, an interesting look into how the "great CM" really works.

 

[DeletedUser32498]

+rep for showing these messages and leaving CM

 

[DeletedUser]

Reading this it looks as if pacts are being made for the selfish reason to protect there own players. maybe im taking it up wrong

 

[DeletedUser]

First, what an immature move to post this conversation in the forum in attempt to make a "statement" and make someone you disagree with look inadequate. Second, if you don't like a decision that a leader makes then leave! Simple as that. Don't cry about it.

What I really see here is Stealing Your Cities, a council member, made a suggestion. The leader had a different route the alliance should take. You completely disagreed to the point you wanted to step down, leave, make a scene, and begin drama in the external forums.

Grow up bro. It's a game.

 

[DeletedUser]

hm... private convos arent disallowed, by the rules, and this wasn't that private. Something you must consider when choosing leaderhip and who to converse with, grepolis gives the player a tremendous opportunity for backstabbing and the like.'

Anyways, an interesting look into how the "great CM" really works.

Shouldn't judge an entire alliances based on the move of One emotional player . CMs structure hasn't changed. Absolutely no one has followed "Stealing your Cities" despite his efforts. CM continues to be great, even greater, with the departure of an irrational player.

 

[DeletedUser6378]

Channel9 you clearly know nothing. Nobody followed me, because i'm not asking anybody to follow. I did this to bring about some changes that the alliance needed, and it has brought about changes in CM.

I know how the game works, and what to do. Everything I do has a reason behind it, and your not smart enough to figure them out, and I will not explain myself to a noob.

 

[DeletedUser]

hm... private convos arent disallowed, by the rules, and this wasn't that private. Something you must consider when choosing leaderhip and who to converse with, grepolis gives the player a tremendous opportunity for backstabbing and the like.'

For everyone's information.. This was a internal matter. LowKey spilled alliance intel and THAT is something he shouldn't have done.
We are discussing this matter internally, WITH LOWKEY INVOLVED. For the matter on choosing a leader, these guys go way back and have been associates for a long time as far as I know.

Anyways, an interesting look into how the "great CM" really works.

The great CM goes on, conquering cities at a fast rate. Our last Op included 24 targets, of which 21 have been conquered. We still have to lose a single city to a enemy, hasn't happened yet, and there is no alliances in World Lapithos that can match us. Most of it is due to a good leadership holding us together, a discussion between a founder and a leader in which the latter decides to leave does not mean the ways of CM are crooked.

+rep for showing these messages and leaving CM

-rep for not contributing to the thread. I don't know what you have against Check Mate, or even against "The Noobiest World Ever", but you left this world as you probably couldn't cary the weight of your ego. Bye Dave.

Absolutely no one has followed "Stealing your Cities" despite his efforts. CM continues to be great, even greater, with the departure of an irrational player.

Although he has left us, this is not a win for CM. He is a great strategist, and a very good friend. We're not even talking about his skills in-game and we're not going to. Only thing anybody must know is that we are dealing with it internally, and CM will only grow stronger from here on forward.

 

[DeletedUser45438]

Everything I do has a reason behind it, and your not smart enough to figure them out, and I will not explain myself to a noob.

Treating a player based on what they believe does not necessarily mean they are a noob not to mention that some would consider your decision nooby when leaving and the process on how you did it. It was not loyal and I believe loyalty is key to this game and defiantly a huge part to win the world no matter which decisions are made sticking together as one and fusing this in to teamwork makes you triumphant even if you do lose.

 

[DeletedUser]

Can we please stop referring to CM as great it sounds so pompous right now we are a successful alliance don't think great is the right term. Made my feelings known on this but internally as stuff like this should stay where it belongs within an alliance that is all peace

 

[DeletedUser32498]

-rep for not contributing to the thread. I don't know what you have against Check Mate, or even against "The Noobiest World Ever", but you left this world as you probably couldn't cary the weight of your ego. Bye Dave.

I won't call you a noob. You're one of the few in Lapithos who actually know what they are doing however speed 2 combined with inexperienced players makes for a very non competitive non lasting world. You want to-rep me then I can return the favor.

 

[DeletedUser33530]

To start I would like to say that I know nothing (and care even less than nothing) about CM other than they have a cool name. Still I just have some comments about this thread and the posts on here. First , there is a thing called screanshots learn to use them. Second, why are some guys treating this like someone just committed a murdered? People leak info all the time learn to live with it. Finally, its great that you know how to copy and paste but next time make a thread that doesn't bore me to death.

 

[DeletedUser44027]

For everyone's information.. This was a internal matter. LowKey spilled alliance intel and THAT is something he shouldn't have done.

uh... why not?

 

[DeletedUser33530]

uh... why not?

Because giving away private information is very wrong.

 

[DeletedUser]

I don't get why everyone is freaking out in all these threads because someone posts a PM.

I mean ro:

 

[DeletedUser6378]

There is no real good info in that post. Part of that conversation was cut out because it did contain some info that should be left out. Nothing in that post matters as usable intel on CM. It is just a lot of reading.


Jigsaw - any player that wants to run there mouth not knowing what they are talking about I will call a noob. As for how I left. It was done right. I stepped down, and removed my own rights as a leader, made a forum post to give my cities away. The forum post got deleted so I just left, and made arrangements with the mail system to have my cities taken. After leaving the mail started rolling in wanting to know why i left. So I left everybody know exactly why i left. I see nothing wrong with that.


Cheater of Death - Sorry I can't make a post to keep you interested. It is a boring server if nothing else it brought some activity to the forum.